Martha Stewart Swimsuit Cover

[RedRosa]

One of the things showing up in the Martha Stewart deal is how much women are encouraging other women to feel bad about wanting to look good. These women are also lying. They don't know what to do

Being embodied stirs anxiety in humans. It just does. We're animals who can think about being animals. That we can think about ourselves as animals immediately places us outside the experience of other animals and the rest of the natural world. It's a radical rupture. In the rest of the natural world, animals just are and things just happen.

We are not "just are" and "just happens." We make choices, and because we make choice, we are outside nature and outside what people name "natural processes" like aging and reproduction. One of the most astonishing choices humans have made is to look with alarm and terror at things that make us feel good, happy, aroused.

[Bookworm]

I find it interesting that women often talk about empowerment but they find it difficult to like other empowered women. It feels like to be likeable to others and especially other women, a woman needs to be more modest than confident.

We are also more likely to be led more by expectations of society than free choices. That's changing though and thank God for that!

[delevigne-fan]

I haven’t seen it and when I went to Google it, I couldn’t find it. I’m currently in Hobart, Tasmania for quite some time and maybe that’s why Google won’t show me it? I’m normally north of Hobart at 34S latitude and Hobart is 42S - I think Google is location based. And I hadn’t seen it in my normal New Zealand location, either. I guess Google or people in these countries aren’t focused on Martha Stewart. (What did I see on the news / the major thing was a massive fire in Sydney, aboriginal reconciliation day and other Australian specific things.)

I found this Guardian article, though, so good for discussion, I guess. (It was among the first items in Google I found.)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... minism-age

[delevigne-fan]

So I did find a representation of the cover in the end. It wasn’t a big deal. Maybe she looks like she’s in her mid 60s rather than 81? I don’t know. The late Tina Turner was someone who also sang, dressed and danced well no matter her stage in life. She didn’t do a swimsuit photo shoot as far as I know but was usually photographed or filmed on stage in short dresses, mini skirts and heels from her 40s up. I don’t remember much of a fuss during the 80s, but bear in mind I was a very young kid when mad max came out.

And I think most will remember her for her music above all else.

Martha Stewart? I’ve never seen a tv show of hers broadcast anywhere. The only one I know of is with Snoop Dogg!
Also I remember her going to jail for insider trading or something!

[RedRosa]

@delevigne-fan Martha Stewart is a minor (controversial) celebrity, never a role model for me or anyone in my circle of friends, but there was some blow back for her Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover on account of her age (and the history of "luscious babe" photos the magazine has used for its swimsuit covers.) the Guardian article pretty much sums up the popular take on the issue (and, btw, I never saw it as a feminist triumph.)